HOBOS IN HENRYVILLE?
- Ken Miller Thomas F. Didier, Mitch Harper, Donovan Anthony Coley Sr., Sally Becker Segerson, Gina Burgess, Joe Renner, Liz Turkette, Lexie Fretz, Angel Ward, Cathy Jean, Clinton Kelly, Michelle Hill, Michele Berkes-Adams, Lavell J. Stabler, Aaron Goulet, Phillip Marx, Philippe Carroll, Samantha Eve Marie,Abigail King Save Maumee, Jain Young, Milton Thomas, Sarah Loshe, David Shearer, David Christopher Roach, David Kohli, Joseph Townsend, Lee Prescott, Laura Bowman, Ed Rose, Larry Merino...please give suitable feedback where you feel it is warranted. I think this is of at least conversational value, as I do not know what exactly is currently on the books and what isn't. Please tag any others I am currently forgetting, those I don't know you feel can contribute to our consensus or wish to be included, and also feel welcome to share this post, if it pleases you to. I haven't spent a lot of time on this vein of thought yet, but wanted to get it out of my head before it got shuffled.
- Joseph Townsend 1) As for cheap housing. That would depend. Some of the reason we got into the mortgage mess we did was because the government forced banks to give housing to those who couldn't afford it. Now, if we are referring to boarded up houses in the 6th district, that could be something to look into.
2) I personally know a few companies who hire homeless. The issue they find, is very few can pass the necessary back ground or drug tests they do. I would especially like us to do more for our homeless VETS. They served for me, so I have no problem having my taxpayers dollars going to help them out!
- Michelle Hill Joseph--I agree with you 100% that taxpayer dollars should go to homeless VETS. But what do you feel about those dollars going to a family who has become homeless? Or other people who became homeless due to some financial situation (such as a major medical expense)? Are they less deserving of taxpayer dollars?
- Joseph Townsend We all have an equal chance of success in this country. If a vet goes homeless I believe it is governments responsibility to take care of them as they took care of us when they served. But to say that it is governments job to take care of a family who happens to go homeless because the father is on drugs, or because of xxx Happening is absurd. Government is not our parents. It is not their job to provide us with a house. We have inaliable rights, but a free house is not one of those.
- Ken Miller Government is neither a soldier's parent, Joseph. Those men and women willingly chose to serve in the capacity they did. Same as a garbage-man, electrical lineman, or water or snow worker who spends considerable hours taking care of the rest of us. All equally important. They were also paid for their service. I am not knocking soldiers, despite my staunch opposition to war, but neither am I willing to say that an "army" is more important than a corps of teachers, or anyone else. I won't support a vet before a non-vet. I won't presume that just because a man or women became a soldier means they have any greater immediate or long-term value or right to assistance. All life deserves respect and support.
- Michele Berkes-Adams Agreed Ken, we are all important and hard times are blind. We are all at risk of finding ourselves in a situation that leaves us without the basic necessities. I guarantee that most homeless do not want to be homeless and, if they knew a way off the streets, would make their way.
- Ken Miller Yep. We all serve in one capacity or another. I can personally attest that some of us are nearly driven mad by our struggles, both near and abroad. I think we all owe one another to look out for eachother. I don't much care for arguments that involve what "the governments owes us."
- Ed Rose Ken most Vets on the street are PTSD. That becomes our responsibility, period! Our government, like it or not, put them in a position that they suffered mental issues. Our government, us citizens, owe it to each of them to treat any and all health, including mental, needs. I am not even open to discussion on this point!
- Ken Miller That's fine, Ed, but personally, my own responsibility does not differentiate between guys that get their heads screwed getting paid to be in the military over guys that get their heads screwed just trying to live. I'm not asking us to skip helping anyone, and in fact, i'm asking us to not skip helping ANYONE. I don't care what part of life caused the hurt. I just want to help fix it.
- Ken Miller To automatically assume that a person who serves in the military is more deserving than a person who needed help before he ever got a fair shot to even get as far as the military seems ludicdous to me. The military, after all, won't take people with the wrong kind of mental issues, or physical limitations. I think that's important to consider.
- Ken Miller It's a valid concern, but not something I think holds enough negative consequence to hinder the better aspects of what could be achieved with type of approach. We need to do through cost/benefit and risk assessents, but I currently only see win/wins, with a minute chance of blowback.
- Philippe Carroll http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/lntv3q/the-homeless-homed
Utah started flat out giving homes/apartments to homeless people and they're saving money. Is there some reason that's not an achievable goal in Fort Wayne?
- Milton Thomas You get into trouble when you give anything away because the people don't value the thing they've been blessed with like food stamps how much of that money gets wasted on frivolous things that are wasteful so working on the home they are going to be given makes me feel better knowing that at best the minor things that could go wrong they at least have an idea on how to fix them.
- Philippe Carroll I understand your ideology but it's working for people all around the country. I do like the idea. Hiring someone to fix up the home they're going to receive. Employment, skills education, and housing all in one. I don't know about that particular program but the housing first program is fiscally very effective according to the statistics coming in.